7na 9afzine wella 3ay9ine wella ghir ddayyine chn3a?

[A_mir]

salamo alikom,

a fine a bidawa? wali bass?

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wa7ed l9adiya (michi mo2anath dyal 9adi) ta tew9a3 liya melli ta netla9a m3a chi 8ergawi f chi mdina, wella m3a chi ba3louk jam3o lih dar8om leflouss bach yemchi ye9ra berra, wella chi 7arrag f l'europe.
ta ygoulo liya ntouma cazawa ta t7esso b raskom 9afzine. ana ta ngoul lih bi annana michi ta n7asso b rasna 9afzine, lakine 7na 9afzine nite bessa7!! w hadi hiya lli ta te9reshoum...
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had l8edra ila 9ra8a chi merrakchi wella chi tanjawi, ye9der y7lef bi annaha kharja men foum bidawi. 3lach 3andna had ssom3a? w chno ma3na 9afez? w wach 9afez w 3aye9 dima m9rounine m3a ba3diyyat8om wella momkine tkoune wa7da bla lakhra?

8ada sou'al guelte m3a rassi ila tna9ichna fi8 binatna ghadi tkoune 3ando mo9araba mekhtalfa 3la ila kane f discussion générale matalane.

[oisis73]

salam khay A-mir, lemgharba kolhom tay7esso brashom 9afzin ghir te9der tkon mechhora beha bedawa 7it fba3d bidawa 9owwit lhedra, an der, ana fl3it, nta tel3o bik, kon kint ana wellah la tara liyya haddikor .... o zod o zid. hadi ghir tebyin l wejhat nadar lli te9der tkon ghalta.
tane3ref hna bezzaf dyal bedawa khrin mafihomch hadechchi, 3adeyyin o llah y3emmerha dar o ma3emmer chi wa7ed fihom 3a9 3lina l7amdollah, bel3eks l9it mochkil m3a be3d l9netriyyin lli fihom le3ya9a bezzaf(machi kolchi )
ta7eyya lennas dyal casa men merrakchi

[osiris]

A_mir 3andek chi afkare ta nta le3fo lelah menek

lmohime n7awel ne3ti wijhate nadari f had lmas2ala cha2ika w li kanet w mazala mojouda f mojtama3na lmaghribi.
bon meli hdarti 3la casawi n7awlo nkhaliw nita9 ghir f casawa w 3ala9athoume m3a al akharine w surtout les grandes villes ( tanja,casa,rabat,fes,marakech,...).
bon chamaliyine stilhoume bo7dhoume 7ma9houme bo7do ,9wafihoume bo7dhoume , ta2tire diyal spagna idane kaybano chwiya soft hadakchi 3lach kaysemiw la casawa la s7abe dakhil kolhome ble3robiya(pardon le3ropiya),la meme chose katbane lfassa f s7abe dakhil (ma nsawch fass mdina 9dima 3ilmiya w tarikhiya),idane kane weslo lrabt, sira3 3adi 3assima idariya w 9tissadiya hado kayeftakhro b les fonctionnaires diyawelhoume w les etablissements w lokhrine, b le flux diyal l3a9a,nweslo l marakech,kane3ref merakchiyine w kane3ref casawiyine walakine 3lach ma kayet7amlouch ba9i baghi ne3ref 3lach .
nrej3o lmas2alate le9foziya, kola wa7ed w kifach kay2awelha, 3and lmo3alime tilmide 9afez howa tilmide daki li kayefhamha tayra, baya3 w charay 9afez, kaychem rba7 fine kayen,....le9foziya katewer 3la 7assabe namate w wassate l3aych,f lbadiya 3lach kona kangoulo bnadem niya mame7tach lwa7ed lach yetcheter w tewer kolchi 3ayech b7al b7al w kolchi kane 7amed allah,lwa9t s3abte w wla talabe ktar men l3ard idane lazeme bnademe ykhademe mokho bach y7awel yakhod 9bel men lakhor w m3a lwa9t w lpratique w l3ard kaye9lale w talabe kayetzade ....
comme conclusion:
ila ma kentich 9afez ma te9darch t3iche west presque 4 malyoune nassama

walilkalami ba9iya.........

[rosée du matin]

Ana machi Casawia, ana Rosée du matin
o ma 3ammer cazawa ma jawni 9afzine, tayjiwni normal; les autres 8ouma lli 8oubbel (jam3 8bil) o 3ouguen (jam3 3aggoun) o m6obssine ( jam3 m6obss ay borné)

Cazawa metfet7ine, cool o fi8om dda7k o nachaaaa6
O T3ich chawiaaaaaaa

[oisis73]

	Citation:			Posté par rosée du matin
	Ana machi Casawia, ana Rosée du matin o ma 3ammer cazawa ma jawni 9afzine, tayjiwni normal; les autres 8ouma lli 8oubbel (jam3 8bil) o 3ouguen (jam3 3aggoun) o m6obssine ( jam3 m6obss ay borné) Cazawa metfet7ine, cool o fi8om dda7k o nachaaaa6 O T3ich chawiaaaaaaa

ze3ma 7ena homa 8oubbel o l3ouguen o lm6ebssine

[A_mir]

	Citation:			Posté par oisis73
	salam khay A-mir, lemgharba kolhom tay7esso brashom 9afzin ghir te9der tkon mechhora beha bedawa 7it fba3d bidawa 9owwit lhedra, an der, ana fl3it, nta tel3o bik, kon kint ana wellah la tara liyya haddikor .... o zod o zid. hadi ghir tebyin l wejhat nadar lli te9der tkon ghalta. tane3ref hna bezzaf dyal bedawa khrin mafihomch hadechchi, 3adeyyin o llah y3emmerha dar o ma3emmer chi wa7ed fihom 3a9 3lina l7amdollah, bel3eks l9it mochkil m3a be3d l9netriyyin lli fihom le3ya9a bezzaf(machi kolchi ) ta7eyya lennas dyal casa men merrakchi

wa alikom ssalam khay oisis73,
lemgharba kolhom ta y7asso b rashom 9afzine mou7al... lakine robbama nnass lli 3aychine f lemdina ba3da ta y7asso b ras8om 9afzine, hna mettafe9 m3ak.
w l9adiya dyal bidawa w 9owwete lhedra, hadi ta hiya nadariyya michi sahel ngoulo s7i7a. lmerrakchiyyine matalane 3andna f casa mech8ourine b "l8adri" kter men ghir8om f lmaghrib"

b 6abi3te l7al, w chokrane 3la echa8ada dyalek, ma khasnach n3ammo l'a7kam dyalna.
ta ana 6rate liya wa7ed sa7bi melli 3rafni men ddar lbayda gal liya ma yemkench, 7ite ttajriba dyalo (lli robbama sghira) m3a chi bidawa khellate li8 dikrayate f chkel.

ta7iyya l nnass dyal merrakch men bidawa

[meriem_spg]

c pas parceque ana casawiya que je v dire cela mais c vrai casawa 9afzine ou fay9ine ou 3ay9ine mais 7ayad aliya li ghir 3ad skan f casa oula ghir kbar fiha hadouk ghir kay kounou 9wifzine mais lcasawa li abane 3an jad et ziyada ou khlo9 hadouk l9fouziya diyal sa7 c vrai kay goulou fina la3ya9a mais je craint que nan et meme lcasawi fima imchi kay b9a casawi ou kayjib pour les otres tmam lol je veu pas dire mais en définitif que sa soi men ayi coin fel maghrib lmgharba en génaral fay9ine ou 9afzine bezaf bezaf 7ayad aliya ghir labrakna mdr

[A_mir]

	Citation:			Posté par osiris
	A_mir 3andek chi afkare ta nta le3fo lelah menek lmohime n7awel ne3ti wijhate nadari f had lmas2ala cha2ika w li kanet w mazala mojouda f mojtama3na lmaghribi. bon meli hdarti 3la casawi n7awlo nkhaliw nita9 ghir f casawa w 3ala9athoume m3a al akharine w surtout les grandes villes ( tanja,casa,rabat,fes,marakech,...). bon chamaliyine stilhoume bo7dhoume 7ma9houme bo7do ,9wafihoume bo7dhoume , ta2tire diyal spagna idane kaybano chwiya soft hadakchi 3lach kaysemiw la casawa la s7abe dakhil kolhome ble3robiya(pardon le3ropiya),la meme chose katbane lfassa f s7abe dakhil (ma nsawch fass mdina 9dima 3ilmiya w tarikhiya),idane kane weslo lrabt, sira3 3adi 3assima idariya w 9tissadiya hado kayeftakhro b les fonctionnaires diyawelhoume w les etablissements w lokhrine, b le flux diyal l3a9a,nweslo l marakech,kane3ref merakchiyine w kane3ref casawiyine walakine 3lach ma kayet7amlouch ba9i baghi ne3ref 3lach . nrej3o lmas2alate le9foziya, kola wa7ed w kifach kay2awelha, 3and lmo3alime tilmide 9afez howa tilmide daki li kayefhamha tayra, baya3 w charay 9afez, kaychem rba7 fine kayen,....le9foziya katewer 3la 7assabe namate w wassate l3aych,f lbadiya 3lach kona kangoulo bnadem niya mame7tach lwa7ed lach yetcheter w tewer kolchi 3ayech b7al b7al w kolchi kane 7amed allah,lwa9t s3abte w wla talabe ktar men l3ard idane lazeme bnademe ykhademe mokho bach y7awel yakhod 9bel men lakhor w m3a lwa9t w lpratique w l3ard kaye9lale w talabe kayetzade .... comme conclusion: ila ma kentich 9afez ma te9darch t3iche west presque 4 malyoune nassama walilkalami ba9iya.........

tta7lil dyalek zwine a khay osiris, chokrane.

kayen naw3 men lmonafassa bayn lmodone, ma yemkench nnekrouh. 8ad lmonafassa ta nchoufouha mzyane f lmaydane dyal kora matalane. Rrba6iyyine ta ye3tabro lmisda9iyya dyal8om machrou3a 7ite mdint8om 8iya l3assima, w Tanjawa fer7anine 7ite s7ab ddakhil ta yderbo 300 w 400 km bach yemchi yet9eddaw 3and8om mortadilla w champwane, w lmerrakchiyyine 3ajeb8oum ras8om 7ite mdint8om zwina w legwer ma3ou6ine fi8om, w ffassa 7ite ba9a 3and8om ssom3a bi anna8om chaddine marakiz f ssol6a w l9tissad.... w lbidawiyyine 3ajeb8oum ras8om 7ite mdint8om kbira w 3arfate ma7a66ate nidaliya kbira f ttarikh lmo3assir (cho8ada2 koumira w idrab 82 w massirate lmiyounayn dyal lmodawwana...). l9tissad w l2i3lam w rriyyada w ddine w lmoda8arate... w l2ir8ab wellaw mefroud 3lihoum ydouzo men mdina ta ygoulou fi8a 5 dyal lmelyoune nasama.

w 8ad lmes2ala dyal lkatafa ssakaniya w atta8afoute 3la forass l3amal je3late nnass yjiw men mokhtalaf lmana6i9 lmaghribiya. f derbna, ta tel9a se7rawi saken 7da 3roubi men chawia, lli kari lgaraje l chla7 dayer pisri w mkhaddem jouj 3roubiya men rr7amna. lpisri ta yechriw men 3ando ffassa lli saknine f chouka w chamaliyyine lli f ddar lli mtekya 3lihom w ryafa lli 9balthoum... w wlad8oum kamline f l3o6la ta yemchiw ygoulo l3a2ilat8om "7na bidawa"...
8ad lkhtila6 w 8ad lmonafassa 3la forass choghl ferdate 3la nnass ykherrjo nyab8om w ywelliw "9afzine" kif guelti a khay osiris. a6i3a, ma 7addich bi yakol8a bi ssa8il, kif galo lmisriyyine.

wa lilkalami "bakiya"
ma tebkhalch 3lina b ra2yek a sadi9i

[nikita]

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